1 00:00:07,670 --> 00:00:04,710 hi everybody dan hewitt here and you're 2 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,680 joining us at chamber a it's a historic 3 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:09,599 landmark it's one of the largest vacuum 4 00:00:13,589 --> 00:00:11,519 chambers in the world i'm joined right 5 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:13,599 now by mary ceremeli the lab manager of 6 00:00:17,269 --> 00:00:15,280 this facility mary thanks so much for 7 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:17,279 being here today uh 8 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:19,600 no problem it's great so first off real 9 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:21,039 quick give us a little history about 10 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:23,760 this chamber i mean it's huge it's large 11 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:25,519 what's what's it been through what's it 12 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:28,480 here it was built in the early 1960s and 13 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:31,920 mid-1960s to test the apollo spacecraft 14 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:33,520 that went all the way from low earth 15 00:00:37,990 --> 00:00:35,680 orbit to the moon so that's why it's so 16 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:38,000 large because that was a fairly large 17 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:40,079 spacecraft that needed a lot of room to 18 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:42,239 be able to experience the full 19 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:45,520 thermal and vacuum environment of space 20 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:46,399 and 21 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:48,239 it's been getting a lot of upgrades 22 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:49,600 lately because 23 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,120 yes what have you guys used the chamber 24 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:53,120 for in the past uh in the past we've 25 00:00:57,029 --> 00:00:55,280 used it for mostly things that were too 26 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,039 big to be tested in smaller chambers 27 00:01:02,310 --> 00:00:59,760 such as the large payload bay radiators 28 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:02,320 for a space shuttle 29 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,040 or the radiators for space station the 30 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,439 thermal system for space station also 31 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:09,760 vehicle size things like the beagle 32 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:10,960 lander 33 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:14,159 airbag system that went to mars we've 34 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:16,960 also used it for some movie making too 35 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:19,439 armageddon future world so it's 36 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,360 definitely a little famous yes it's our 37 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:23,439 resident diva okay 38 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:25,040 now upgrades what are some of the 39 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,720 upgrades you guys are making major 40 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,320 infrastructure upgrades to this chamber 41 00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:30,240 what are some of them oh we've we've 42 00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:32,240 made uh 43 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,159 several major infrastructure upgrades 44 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:36,000 over the last four years to make this 45 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:37,840 chamber clean enough to test an optical 46 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:40,000 telescope 47 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,320 as well as make it cold enough those 48 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:44,799 were the two major uh goals we needed to 49 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:45,920 have 50 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:48,079 originally the chamber 51 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:50,560 could go to about minus 300 degrees 52 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:52,880 fahrenheit but in order to test the 53 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,720 james webb space telescope we needed it 54 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:57,520 to operate around minus 440 degrees 55 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,079 fahrenheit much colder than any other 56 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,360 chamber on the planet of this size so 57 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:05,600 this is new technology this is a 58 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:08,239 new concept in the world for being able 59 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:10,160 to get something this size that cold and 60 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,760 keep it there for 90 days while we're 61 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:13,520 testing like you mentioned you're going 62 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:15,280 to be testing the james webb space 63 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:17,440 telescope what is it 64 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:19,760 the james webb space telescope is the 65 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:22,319 next hubble it's the next greatest thing 66 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:23,200 in 67 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:34,319 telescopes and other satellites it's 68 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:35,840 actually going to go a million miles 69 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:38,080 from earth four times farther away than 70 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:41,280 the moon is from us and hang out at the 71 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:44,160 l2 lagrange point where it's in at that 72 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,160 point that's why it's so cold it's very 73 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:48,239 very cold at that point since we're so 74 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:50,000 far from the influence of the earth and 75 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:50,959 the moon 76 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:53,840 and it will be able to look for the most 77 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,160 faint sources of light as close to the 78 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:58,640 big bang as we can get 79 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,319 why do we need to put something like 80 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:02,560 james webb in a chamber like this oh 81 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:04,879 well james webb is breaking new ground 82 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:06,959 on all its technologies on its materials 83 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:10,080 technologies and its sensor technologies 84 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:11,360 um 85 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:13,440 all these things need to be tested out 86 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:15,519 before we launch it off to earth because 87 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:17,440 once it gets out to the l2 point we're 88 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:19,040 not getting it back we're not be able to 89 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:21,280 service it refuel it we're not going to 90 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:22,640 be able to jump up there and repair it 91 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:24,239 we're not able to repair it so it's got 92 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,400 to work before we launch it so we have 93 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,239 to fully test out all the systems the 94 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,640 way it will operate 95 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:32,400 on the ground here where it's cheap and 96 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:34,799 easy to do so the inside of that chamber 97 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:37,360 is basically going to be like what james 98 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,720 webb is going to live in when it's a 99 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:40,799 million miles away that's right it looks 100 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:42,799 very unassuming it looks very black 101 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:44,879 that's what the james webb telescope was 102 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,560 going to be looking at is a lot of black 103 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:48,560 and searching for very faint sources of 104 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:50,720 light amongst that black and it's it's 105 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:52,879 going to be very very cold and what are 106 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:54,560 what are just some of the general tests 107 00:03:58,229 --> 00:03:56,000 you guys are going to be running on the 108 00:04:01,270 --> 00:03:58,239 telescope once it's inside once it's 109 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:01,280 inside we're going to be exercising the 110 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:03,280 the infrared sensors 111 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:04,480 we're going to be 112 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:07,360 seeing what the mirror assemblies do 113 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:08,959 when they're exposed all exposed 114 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,680 together at the same time to the cold 115 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:13,439 environment so far they've been tested 116 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:15,280 individually we're going to test all 18 117 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:17,120 mirror segments together 118 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:19,919 and make sure that the mechanics and the 119 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:21,280 electronics 120 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,040 all work the way they're supposed to 121 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:25,040 before it flies this is one of the last 122 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:26,160 tests 123 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:28,160 of the all the systems on the james webb 124 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:30,800 telescope before it leaves to go to its 125 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:32,800 launch site so it's the last place where 126 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:34,960 everything will be together to test so 127 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:37,600 last stop last chance very important get 128 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:39,440 it ready before very important because 129 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:41,280 it will launch less than a year later 130 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,080 after it leaves here from french guiana 131 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:47,040 okay yeah all right well fascinating 132 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:48,960 again cavernous historic chamber you 133 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:50,720 guys are doing some amazing work out 134 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:51,520 here 135 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,199 thanks for giving us an inside look real 136 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,040 quick really appreciate it 137 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,880 and if you want to find out more about 138 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:58,479 the james webb space telescope or